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Steel
11-05-2008, 11:57 PM
Few observations from the spectators view...

It seems a matchup between Urijah and Brown will pretty much always end up being a standup war no matter how many times you match these two up. Why? I believe Urijah's skill, speed, and technique is better than Brown's in the wrestling aspect of the game, but Brown's size and strength seems like it could cancel that out and make both fighters weary of engaging in a ground war.

On the feet, Brown has power obviously and Urijah also has power, but more importantly imo, the speed advantage. Due to Urijah's athleticism and skill, he has the ability to carry out pretty much any game plan you can create. This is obviously a major advantage and with a proper gameplan targeting Brown's weaknesses it is lethal.

If the fight was kept standing it seems an MMA-friendly version of Floyd Mayweather's boxing style could be adapted to pick Brown apart. Brown didnt' seem to like Urijah's overhand right too much and we saw Urijah land it at will against Pulver (very similar to Mayweathers ability). Being able to lead with a powershot at will is a great start for a sharpshooter's game plan.

A decent template for ideas to look at (from a standup perspective) is Mayweather vs Hatton (bigger fighter trying to bully the quicker more skilled fighter). Mayweather was very successful at laying traps for Hatton to fall into and eventually frustrating and TKO'ing him.

The key to the standup in my view is going to be laying traps and capitalizing on them and drag Brown into deep water and then either end the fight on the feet by TKO/points, or begin a brutal up and down fight similar to GSP vs Serra (and possibly toss in the knee strategy utilized by GSP if there is an opening for it after seeing the results of one knee ramming into Brown's ribs). Urijah's speed is key in this area. Speed dazzles someone when you throw a flurry or a group of shots and then you're gone out of their eye sight and they can't find you. Urijah can accomplish this.

The second part of that puzzle is the defensive side. A conservative game plan will work best I believe. I don't believe brawling is a smart idea with a big swinger. I don't think there is any reason to go for any big moves like flying knees, high kicks, reverse elbows etc. when Urijah has the advantage in the more basic tools that can swell up Browns eyes and render him virtually paralyzed standing. The good ol' fashioned hands up, and taking little steps to just avoid the range of Brown while circling and creating angles would be a perfect match to induce confusion and frustration leaving many options.

Again, they're ideas from a spectators point of view and I'm brainstorming here so I'd like to hear others input.

I would love to see Urijah fight a methodical fight and pick apart Brown just as he did to Jens. I believe it will happen in one way or another and my chips are down on Urijah in the rematch.

Jessica_1979
11-06-2008, 12:02 AM
I keep watching the fight, not sure which big knee it was that injured Brown. Too bad for that little slip up...Urijah would of had him for sure...I agree, keep it simple next time. I'd like to see Urijah pick up Brown, fling him across the mat and ground and pound him to ref stoppage....Californa kid style! :cool:

NoFear91
11-06-2008, 12:10 AM
Hahah totally agree Jess! After watching that fight, I can't believe how close it was to goin the other way... If Urijah swings half a second earlier his elbow connects first and were not even talking about a rematch. I think he should have just gone for a takedown a couple of times to see what happened, if that fails then stay on the feet and bang it out, but it didnt seem like he was trying to take him down... Hopefully next time its a different story and def. a different result!

Seth
11-06-2008, 02:57 AM
I agree with everyone... But what makes a true WINNER a true WINNER?? What makes a CHAMPION a CHAMPION? Defeating your worst enemy



WAR FABER

Ivan
11-06-2008, 03:21 PM
Here is what WEC should do

Faber fight 1 more undercard, just a "feel good match" just beat the shit out of some kid, THEN, take his title back

(its only fair to give mike at least a tiny time to polish his belt before we steal it back)

Kimberly
11-06-2008, 03:24 PM
(its only fair to give mike at least a tiny time to polish his belt before we steal it back)

LOL...I still feel Urijah should the get an automatic rematch. Just let him go for it, no other distractions.

Rattlebone
11-06-2008, 04:18 PM
Here is what WEC should do

Faber fight 1 more undercard, just a "feel good match" just beat the shit out of some kid, THEN, take his title back

(its only fair to give mike at least a tiny time to polish his belt before we steal it back)

No way Tap. Uriah must be chomping at the bit to settle this. Urijah needs NOBODY between he and a rematch with Mr. Brown for the belt.


No screwing around - get it ON!

Ivan
11-06-2008, 10:38 PM
that's what we would have liked to of seen against Tyson griffin but that hasn't happened yet either. He's still the California kid he will have his title (1 of 3) back in no time

Rattlebone
11-07-2008, 10:19 AM
LOL...I still feel Urijah should the get an automatic rematch. Just let him go for it, no other distractions.

Right on Ej.

Neither stand in line behind Garcia or risk possible injury in a tune up match. Urijah is the NUMBER 1 CONTENDER for the belt.

REMATCH N-O-W!

Lucky7
11-07-2008, 11:45 AM
While I'm all for a rematch (and soon!), I don't think that's the way the game is played.

Why would Brown want to fight Faber, for the belt, right away?

If Urijah was some cocky kid, spewing at the mouth about a rematch, and Brown played along, then we might see a grudge re-match.

That said, I think we'll see Urijah fight someone else before the chance for a re-match with Brown. I'd like to see Faber vs. Leonard Garcia...he's a tough kid, and a very good fighter (exposed Pulver's weak chin). I think this would be a good fight, and one that Urijah would win. Garcia said he wants a title fight...I think a fight vs. Urijah would satisfy him. Whoever wins that fight would fight Mike Brown for the belt.

In a broad sense, as far as strategy, (I'm gonna disagree with Steel here) I think Urijah needs to come out stronger in his next fight against Brown. He plays a little defensive/trap game normally. Urijah is so explosive, acts super quick (by that I mean he actually thinks and acts quicker than most other fighters), and he's damn crafty (throwing a knee when your opponent has you in a single leg, and getting out of certain situations). I think Urijah should try to take control of the match right away, not wait to pick your spots.

Rattlebone
11-07-2008, 03:55 PM
Urijah. 21-2-0. Held Featherweight title over 2 years. Suffered first loss in 14 fights to Brown. STILL number 1 contender.

Brown should readily offer the BEST fighter at 145 the first title shot. WEC would be insane NOT to promote what would be its Fight of the Year.

Urijah Faber vs Mike Brown REMATCH!

Rattlebone
11-07-2008, 04:27 PM
Sac's thread "Suspensions Following Urijah's Fight" might just dash our hopes. That would SUCK for sure.